hey everyone! well i really need some help... you see,i have a now 4 month old budgie and everything was fine and dandy but now that's all changed...see,this one time i took him out of his cage and tried to see if he would want to take a bath in a bowl of shallow water and he did not like that AT ALL so now every time i try to take him out of his cage to hold him or something he runs away from me or flies to the other side of the cage!what can i do to get him to trust me again and let me take him out of his cage without himmoving away!? please help! Also,has a pet store person ever been wrong about the gender of YOUR bird?is it likely that they would be wrong most of the time?also what age are most budgies when their gender shows? and do pet store people look at anything else BESIDES THE CERE to find out the the birds gender? P.S. i'll give best answer to anyone who helps me out alot on this!=p later!
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At four months, the cere should be showing the right colors. There aren't many ways to be 100% positive other than the cere color, but males are more vocal, females are more territorial, females have more pinkish feet... that's about it.
Since you scared him with the bath (it happens a lot with smaller birds, try just taking him in the shower with you or steaming up the bathroom), it's just going to take time for him to trust you again. Just feed him lots of treats, give him his space, and don't force him to do anything. If he doesn't get more trusting within a week or so, take him out of the cage (toweling works, but it's better if you can just pick him up gently) and let him run around for a while. He'll soon realize that you're not going to try to give him a bath again and that he can come out of the cage without being afraid.
Pet store people are wrong a lot about genders of animals because they are not informed, or just want to sound intelligent by making something up. With budgies, usually they wont be wrong unless the bird was just a baby and they didn't realize it (all babies look like males). If you have any other questions (or my answers made no sense, I'm kind of tired) feel free to email me
u cant MAKE a bird trust u but u can try going slow when approaching...move slowly and talk to it..like saying "good bird" or say its name in a soft but stern voice...pet store people usually dont care about the gender..the store where i got it from,the lady said it was a boy..but i searched online and found out it was a girl..the gender reaveling age is around a year or so.
Hold a piece of fruit or veg in your hand near the opening of the cage and this should encourge him out.
After a few days move your hand further away of the door and so on.
try these treats:
Salad Cress - Peas - Apple - Celery - Courgette - Sweetcorn - Watercress - Boiled Rice (white or brown) - Parsley Sprig - Grapes - Cucumber - Dandelion Leaves - Broccoli - Broard Beans - Carrott - Finger of bread soaked in water (white or brown) - Mashed Boiled Egg (shell also) - Tomatoes - Lettuce - Cooked Pasta - Radishes (leaves also) - Crackers - Crisps- Chips - Cooked Potoato
The only way to sex a budgie is the cere, blue for boys and brown for girls.
Lutino (yellow), Albino (white) [Pic id] or vanilla (cream) all with red eyes. pink for males and brown for females.
Friday, July 31, 2009
Budgie Or Cockatiel?
i was woundering what would be better a budgie or a cockatiel i cant make my mind up,also which out of the two are better talkers
Answers:
I am partial to cockatiels. They are very loving and quite intelligent. Cockatiels talk very well.
Just be sure to spend about an hour a day talking with your 'tiel and letting him know he is loved, and he will probably be talking before you know it !!
Both budgies and cockateils make awesome pets. Both can be easily trained (with patience from the owner).
Personally, I think cockateils are a little more social and more cuddly with people and enjoy petting more than budgies. They are generally quiet but can emit very loud calls. Budgies are more energitic and they chirp often, though never very loud.
Budgies are good talkers, better than cockatiels.
Cockatiels have longer life span than budgies, though they also cost more.
and
i'm very Sorry for being rude to Cockatiel Expert.
It is really difficult to get either of these birds to talk. They do talk. Their voices are rough, mine sound like little robots.
I have both. If you have the time and money, I would suggest getting one of each. They can get along just fine in the same cage. You will have to work with each one separately to train them to talk, but if you are not home all day, they can have a friend.
My one Budgie stands on the back of my cockatiels like they are a perch for him. It is so cute!
Good Luck!
I personally think that budgies are better talkers, and believe me I own one!
I also read an article on BirdChannel.com, and it named to the top 3 best talking birds and budgies were number 3, right behind African Greys and Quakers!
Here's the article:
http://birdchannel.com/bird-species/find...
I like cockatiels. But they have a nasty of getting sick and dying. Go with the budige, because the darn thing might stand a better chance of survival
Cockatiels are better talkers. They are also funner and can do more things. If you have any questions please email me.
And LittleBarney i reported you because you can not reserve you place in an answer. Very rude.
Hope this helps,
Cockatiel Expert
cockatiel
They are both great birds - it just depends on what is more important to you, a talker or a snuggler.
I must agree with Little Barney. Budgies are FAR better talkers than cockatiels. However, the cockatiels are great whistlers, probably more affectionate and may actually become a bit more tame than budgies.
There was a time when I owned (or was owned by) more than 10 cockatiels at one time. NONE of them talked but they were great at whistling tunes they were taught. I was a breeder of parakeets for over 15 years and even some of the ones who were "breeders" as opposed to my "pets", were very good a mimicking the human voice - mostly in short phrases or sentences.
Just remember that simply because you want a budgie to talk, and no matter how hard you try to teach it to talk, does not ensure that it will talk. Same goes for whistlers in cockatiels. Each bird is an individual and will have a different personality, just like people. There are shy, quiet ones and loud, "here I am, look at me" ones - which leads me to my next paragraph.
No one needs to report anyone for any responses to this questions but the Cockatiel Expert is obviously a self-proclaimed expert who is no doubt partial to and loves her cockatiels. She is, however, INCORRECT by telling you that cockatiels are better talkers. And, she needs to return to grammar school because "funner" is not a word.
Cockatiels are usually better talkers but they have a very loud screech which must be taken into consideration. They are bigger and would need a bigger cage than a budgie. Budgies are less likely to talk and i have only ever had budgies, they have their own little personalities and cna be really funny to watch.
Definitely a Budgie. A young male Budgie three/four months of age, would be ideal. Wait a couple of weeks for the bird to settle down, then start in earnest to teach him.Once your bird feels he is part of his "human flock", half the job is done! They are very easy to teach,you just need time and patience. With the correct teaching,your bird will have a vocabulary that will amaze you,and you WILL be able to understand every word!! I've never had a failure yet with any I have taught...
talkers?
neither are bettter but cockatiels are preetier and and calmer than budgies
Cockatiels tend to be more loving and talkative. (not sure if thats good or bad. Ha ha) Parakeets can be just as loving but they are more skitish because of their diminutive size. Cockatiels would probably be the better one to go with. But just remember. Cockatiels take a bit more time and devotion.
i own both a budgie and a cockatiel and they are both great together, so whichever you choose it will be the right choose. Or even like me you could have both.
Answers:
I am partial to cockatiels. They are very loving and quite intelligent. Cockatiels talk very well.
Just be sure to spend about an hour a day talking with your 'tiel and letting him know he is loved, and he will probably be talking before you know it !!
Both budgies and cockateils make awesome pets. Both can be easily trained (with patience from the owner).
Personally, I think cockateils are a little more social and more cuddly with people and enjoy petting more than budgies. They are generally quiet but can emit very loud calls. Budgies are more energitic and they chirp often, though never very loud.
Budgies are good talkers, better than cockatiels.
Cockatiels have longer life span than budgies, though they also cost more.
and
i'm very Sorry for being rude to Cockatiel Expert.
It is really difficult to get either of these birds to talk. They do talk. Their voices are rough, mine sound like little robots.
I have both. If you have the time and money, I would suggest getting one of each. They can get along just fine in the same cage. You will have to work with each one separately to train them to talk, but if you are not home all day, they can have a friend.
My one Budgie stands on the back of my cockatiels like they are a perch for him. It is so cute!
Good Luck!
I personally think that budgies are better talkers, and believe me I own one!
I also read an article on BirdChannel.com, and it named to the top 3 best talking birds and budgies were number 3, right behind African Greys and Quakers!
Here's the article:
http://birdchannel.com/bird-species/find...
I like cockatiels. But they have a nasty of getting sick and dying. Go with the budige, because the darn thing might stand a better chance of survival
Cockatiels are better talkers. They are also funner and can do more things. If you have any questions please email me.
And LittleBarney i reported you because you can not reserve you place in an answer. Very rude.
Hope this helps,
Cockatiel Expert
cockatiel
They are both great birds - it just depends on what is more important to you, a talker or a snuggler.
I must agree with Little Barney. Budgies are FAR better talkers than cockatiels. However, the cockatiels are great whistlers, probably more affectionate and may actually become a bit more tame than budgies.
There was a time when I owned (or was owned by) more than 10 cockatiels at one time. NONE of them talked but they were great at whistling tunes they were taught. I was a breeder of parakeets for over 15 years and even some of the ones who were "breeders" as opposed to my "pets", were very good a mimicking the human voice - mostly in short phrases or sentences.
Just remember that simply because you want a budgie to talk, and no matter how hard you try to teach it to talk, does not ensure that it will talk. Same goes for whistlers in cockatiels. Each bird is an individual and will have a different personality, just like people. There are shy, quiet ones and loud, "here I am, look at me" ones - which leads me to my next paragraph.
No one needs to report anyone for any responses to this questions but the Cockatiel Expert is obviously a self-proclaimed expert who is no doubt partial to and loves her cockatiels. She is, however, INCORRECT by telling you that cockatiels are better talkers. And, she needs to return to grammar school because "funner" is not a word.
Cockatiels are usually better talkers but they have a very loud screech which must be taken into consideration. They are bigger and would need a bigger cage than a budgie. Budgies are less likely to talk and i have only ever had budgies, they have their own little personalities and cna be really funny to watch.
Definitely a Budgie. A young male Budgie three/four months of age, would be ideal. Wait a couple of weeks for the bird to settle down, then start in earnest to teach him.Once your bird feels he is part of his "human flock", half the job is done! They are very easy to teach,you just need time and patience. With the correct teaching,your bird will have a vocabulary that will amaze you,and you WILL be able to understand every word!! I've never had a failure yet with any I have taught...
talkers?
neither are bettter but cockatiels are preetier and and calmer than budgies
Cockatiels tend to be more loving and talkative. (not sure if thats good or bad. Ha ha) Parakeets can be just as loving but they are more skitish because of their diminutive size. Cockatiels would probably be the better one to go with. But just remember. Cockatiels take a bit more time and devotion.
i own both a budgie and a cockatiel and they are both great together, so whichever you choose it will be the right choose. Or even like me you could have both.
Budgie or cockatiel?
I want a budgie or a cockatiel which one is better?
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Get a cockatiel, it doesn't really matter what sex either. They are a very social breed, they just want to be with the ones they love! They're great singers too, especially if you get a male! They're very easy to train, and they are a great pet for beginner bird owners!
I wouldn't worry so much about biting like everyone else seems to be, it comes along with owning a bird. Yes, they can draw blood, but it's not like it's a life threatening injury. Birds let you know when they don't want to be fooled with, you should be able to tell its mood by its behaviors and how it postures.
I have one his name is Tom (like a male turkey, lol!) he's very sweet, he sings for my attention, when you pick him up he will set his head down so that you know he wants to be loved on!
Check out Animal Planet's website, you can get lots of info about the breed there, even tips on caring for and strange behaviors! =)
I like Budgie better!
Cockateil's are a lot smarter and prettier. My experience with Budgies is they seem to be a**holes.
it depends on how much time a day you have to spend to interact with the bird
budgies require about an hour a day
cockatiels require more.about 2 or more a day to be happy
they are both great birds
Cockatiels are a lot smarter and are easier to train.
I got a cockatiel and it is well cool. ALso budgies are little stupid things.
i have three parakeets and two cockatiels, but i would choose a cockatiel their have a great little character. and they are easy to train.
this is a question you need to ask yourself. Do you like budgies or cockatiels better? I personally like cockatiels. They are a great first bird and they are fairly easy to take care of. The males can learn to talk. They are usually very affectionate birds and forgiving. My experiences with parakeets haven't been the best. To me they aren't as smart. But, I am sure there are people out there that will disagree. Make your own choice. It really is just a matter of preference.
Cockatiels are smarter than a budgie and they are also very pretty, but they can bite alot harder than a budgie can.
I have two budgies and i love them! however, if y ou want a bird who will talk more and be more playful- probabl a tiel. but be prepared to spend a LOOOT of time with it! they need a lot of attention and love. and fyi- they can be a-holes too haha!!
i have both.. cockatiels probably because they lkie to be held more than the budgies. Cockatiels tend to bite less stronger then budies and they are more easily trained
budgie definatly! cokatails can bite harder because they're bigger. i have a budgie. they only bite if your hurting them. every cokatail ive met has tried to bite me!!
I'm sorry but for those of you who have been saying cockatiels bite more or harder should be ashamed for advising something false. That is one of the untruest things I've heard. Theyr'e both great birds but you can bond better with tiels, they have a greater color variation and whistiling paterns. theyre very social love humans and look to them more as roomates and friends rather than a master or owner
cocktail !!
to me it's Budgie Parakeets, I think cockatiels are just ugly and i think its the "mow hawk" on top of their head
for the people who say cockatiels come in a better variety of color, MUST never do research on Budgies, You can get a HUGE variety of colors, Anything from the normal Green, to Purple (YES PURPLE), to a Dark Grey that looks black, they've come in Pastel colors (multi light colors), many different shades of blue, there is just too many colors to name
MINE only bite if you turn them on their back, Mine aren't A holes they are very charming little creatures, and comical to watch play, they're not loud at all ( and I've got a Quaker parrot to compare them too) Mine learned to step up in 2 days of owning her ( my 2nd one one did it the very first day i brought him home from the pet store). I don't even have to say step up, I just put my finger under their belly and they step up! and budgies also have the ability to talk ( look up Talking budgies on You Tube there is a ton of videos)
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Get a cockatiel, it doesn't really matter what sex either. They are a very social breed, they just want to be with the ones they love! They're great singers too, especially if you get a male! They're very easy to train, and they are a great pet for beginner bird owners!
I wouldn't worry so much about biting like everyone else seems to be, it comes along with owning a bird. Yes, they can draw blood, but it's not like it's a life threatening injury. Birds let you know when they don't want to be fooled with, you should be able to tell its mood by its behaviors and how it postures.
I have one his name is Tom (like a male turkey, lol!) he's very sweet, he sings for my attention, when you pick him up he will set his head down so that you know he wants to be loved on!
Check out Animal Planet's website, you can get lots of info about the breed there, even tips on caring for and strange behaviors! =)
I like Budgie better!
Cockateil's are a lot smarter and prettier. My experience with Budgies is they seem to be a**holes.
it depends on how much time a day you have to spend to interact with the bird
budgies require about an hour a day
cockatiels require more.about 2 or more a day to be happy
they are both great birds
Cockatiels are a lot smarter and are easier to train.
I got a cockatiel and it is well cool. ALso budgies are little stupid things.
i have three parakeets and two cockatiels, but i would choose a cockatiel their have a great little character. and they are easy to train.
this is a question you need to ask yourself. Do you like budgies or cockatiels better? I personally like cockatiels. They are a great first bird and they are fairly easy to take care of. The males can learn to talk. They are usually very affectionate birds and forgiving. My experiences with parakeets haven't been the best. To me they aren't as smart. But, I am sure there are people out there that will disagree. Make your own choice. It really is just a matter of preference.
Cockatiels are smarter than a budgie and they are also very pretty, but they can bite alot harder than a budgie can.
I have two budgies and i love them! however, if y ou want a bird who will talk more and be more playful- probabl a tiel. but be prepared to spend a LOOOT of time with it! they need a lot of attention and love. and fyi- they can be a-holes too haha!!
i have both.. cockatiels probably because they lkie to be held more than the budgies. Cockatiels tend to bite less stronger then budies and they are more easily trained
budgie definatly! cokatails can bite harder because they're bigger. i have a budgie. they only bite if your hurting them. every cokatail ive met has tried to bite me!!
I'm sorry but for those of you who have been saying cockatiels bite more or harder should be ashamed for advising something false. That is one of the untruest things I've heard. Theyr'e both great birds but you can bond better with tiels, they have a greater color variation and whistiling paterns. theyre very social love humans and look to them more as roomates and friends rather than a master or owner
cocktail !!
to me it's Budgie Parakeets, I think cockatiels are just ugly and i think its the "mow hawk" on top of their head
for the people who say cockatiels come in a better variety of color, MUST never do research on Budgies, You can get a HUGE variety of colors, Anything from the normal Green, to Purple (YES PURPLE), to a Dark Grey that looks black, they've come in Pastel colors (multi light colors), many different shades of blue, there is just too many colors to name
MINE only bite if you turn them on their back, Mine aren't A holes they are very charming little creatures, and comical to watch play, they're not loud at all ( and I've got a Quaker parrot to compare them too) Mine learned to step up in 2 days of owning her ( my 2nd one one did it the very first day i brought him home from the pet store). I don't even have to say step up, I just put my finger under their belly and they step up! and budgies also have the ability to talk ( look up Talking budgies on You Tube there is a ton of videos)
Budgie lacewing male/female?
have 2 new lacewing budgies and the beaks are slightly blue however breeder said he thought one was probably female he mentioned that you can tell by size of nostrils, any idea as i have a normal violet male and his beak is a definate dark blue
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Females - White/light-blue, tan, or brown cere. This is true for all varieties. With the development of brown color is a flaky texture. This can build up to be about a centimeter thick.
Males -
Blue or purplish-blue cere in normal varieties only.
Bright violet or pink (does not change after youth) occurs in the following varieties: recessive pied, lutino/albino, dark-eyed clear, lacewing, and fallow...
The cere or the spongy bit at the top of the beak (nostrils)on a young female it will be creamy fawn turning to brown when it reaches maturity,on a male it will start as the female but will turn to Blue when it reaches maturity you seem to have two males.
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Females - White/light-blue, tan, or brown cere. This is true for all varieties. With the development of brown color is a flaky texture. This can build up to be about a centimeter thick.
Males -
Blue or purplish-blue cere in normal varieties only.
Bright violet or pink (does not change after youth) occurs in the following varieties: recessive pied, lutino/albino, dark-eyed clear, lacewing, and fallow...
The cere or the spongy bit at the top of the beak (nostrils)on a young female it will be creamy fawn turning to brown when it reaches maturity,on a male it will start as the female but will turn to Blue when it reaches maturity you seem to have two males.
Brown spots on Severe MaCaws wings?
I have a 3 year old green Severe Macaw. I notice some small brown spots on her wings. Is this normal ?
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Are they kinda like stripes going acroos all or most feathers at the same point of the featehr? If so these may be stress marks which means at that particular point of the birds life something stressed him.
If they're black %26 randome (not on every featehr %26 not at the exact same point on every featehr) this is an indication of too much fat in the birds diet %26 it needs to be redused.
If you offer seed make sure they're good seed for macaws or limit the daily intake of seed.
Nuts are excellent for macaws %26 needed in a macaws diet but they too need to be limited to a reasonable amound weekly.
If he's pellets, look at the ingredients to see how much fat it contains. Buy macaw specific pellets that're natural %26 offer a variety of fresh foods too, to limit the pellet intake daily.
One mmore thing too. If he's getting brazil nuts you may want to stop this as there has been increasing numbers of macaws becoming quite ill due to brazil nuts %26 it starts off with the brown spots under wings.
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Are they kinda like stripes going acroos all or most feathers at the same point of the featehr? If so these may be stress marks which means at that particular point of the birds life something stressed him.
If they're black %26 randome (not on every featehr %26 not at the exact same point on every featehr) this is an indication of too much fat in the birds diet %26 it needs to be redused.
If you offer seed make sure they're good seed for macaws or limit the daily intake of seed.
Nuts are excellent for macaws %26 needed in a macaws diet but they too need to be limited to a reasonable amound weekly.
If he's pellets, look at the ingredients to see how much fat it contains. Buy macaw specific pellets that're natural %26 offer a variety of fresh foods too, to limit the pellet intake daily.
One mmore thing too. If he's getting brazil nuts you may want to stop this as there has been increasing numbers of macaws becoming quite ill due to brazil nuts %26 it starts off with the brown spots under wings.
Breeding Question~please answer?
I want to get a couple of finches and breed them, and when they are old enough, my grandmother wants them...I'm not giving them to her as a gift, she knows about them, so don't worry about that
Can i just get them from petsmart, do you think they are healthy enough, should i just get a male and female and they will mate, or is there anything i can do to, uhh, i guess seduce them to make them want to mate.
I know what to do after the egg is layed, and all about caring for the babies, but i dont know how to get them to mate
HELP???
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I'm not familiar with Finches, But I'm sure they aren't any different from any other bird, if you get 2 " un bonded" finches, it may take them a while to actually " bond" them start mating, So in my honest opinion you're better off buying a pair that is Proven breeders ( one's that have proven to lay eggs that were fertile)
I see no problem in Breeding any bird, as long as it's done correctly, You know exactly what your doing, and You breed Species that are in demand , and i do see allot of people wanting to buy finches, now if you said you wanted to breed say Canaries, I'd have to disagree because I've been searcing the internet ( ALLOT Of online classified ad's) and i have not yet found any one wanting to buy canaries
and before i got my budgie my bf took me to a breeder he knew that he got all his birds off of when he was into birds,(Several years ago) and the man only breeds Canaries now and I know there was at least 30 cages if not more stacked up all around a add on room of his garage and each cage had at least 10 canaries in them - NO one is buying them
but Finches i see people wanting them all the time
I say as long as you truly know what your doing and you've already got good , loving, caring homes for them Good For it!
if you go here http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/na...
it shows you different nesting boxes, and I think the Nesting Finch Tiki hut is kinda Cool lookin :-) I'm sure you can find them cheaper some where else ( or maybe not i just bought a Flight Suit for my quaker from them and they were the cheapest place i found one), but at least it gives you an Idea of what a Finches nesting box looks like
Here come all the Animal Rights Screwballs..Get ready!
My dad has a lot of finches. He just bought them a finch nest and put some soft string on the bottom of the nest.When the finches reached sexual maturity they started mating. Oh and my dad got some of his finches from pet smart. Just don't get the ones at the bottom of the cage or ones that fluff out there feathers too much or that are constantly closing their eyes. That can be a sign they are sick.
Can i just get them from petsmart, do you think they are healthy enough, should i just get a male and female and they will mate, or is there anything i can do to, uhh, i guess seduce them to make them want to mate.
I know what to do after the egg is layed, and all about caring for the babies, but i dont know how to get them to mate
HELP???
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I'm not familiar with Finches, But I'm sure they aren't any different from any other bird, if you get 2 " un bonded" finches, it may take them a while to actually " bond" them start mating, So in my honest opinion you're better off buying a pair that is Proven breeders ( one's that have proven to lay eggs that were fertile)
I see no problem in Breeding any bird, as long as it's done correctly, You know exactly what your doing, and You breed Species that are in demand , and i do see allot of people wanting to buy finches, now if you said you wanted to breed say Canaries, I'd have to disagree because I've been searcing the internet ( ALLOT Of online classified ad's) and i have not yet found any one wanting to buy canaries
and before i got my budgie my bf took me to a breeder he knew that he got all his birds off of when he was into birds,(Several years ago) and the man only breeds Canaries now and I know there was at least 30 cages if not more stacked up all around a add on room of his garage and each cage had at least 10 canaries in them - NO one is buying them
but Finches i see people wanting them all the time
I say as long as you truly know what your doing and you've already got good , loving, caring homes for them Good For it!
if you go here http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/na...
it shows you different nesting boxes, and I think the Nesting Finch Tiki hut is kinda Cool lookin :-) I'm sure you can find them cheaper some where else ( or maybe not i just bought a Flight Suit for my quaker from them and they were the cheapest place i found one), but at least it gives you an Idea of what a Finches nesting box looks like
Here come all the Animal Rights Screwballs..Get ready!
My dad has a lot of finches. He just bought them a finch nest and put some soft string on the bottom of the nest.When the finches reached sexual maturity they started mating. Oh and my dad got some of his finches from pet smart. Just don't get the ones at the bottom of the cage or ones that fluff out there feathers too much or that are constantly closing their eyes. That can be a sign they are sick.
Breeding problem?
Just curious, I called my friend regarding her pigeons(see my profile for my pigeon questions) and for some reason the baby didn't make it due to her head being deformed. She was a backcross, as in her mother is a homing pigen/parlar roller mix and the father is a purebred parlor roller. A backcross is 50% of one breed and 75% of another.
She plans to breed the birds again but what could cause a backcross to have problems like this?
I'm not sure if it was because the father's genes might've been strong or something else.
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Its kind of random just as twins in humans ya know.
Ive done alot of work with pigeons working on a nesting farm.
It just happens somtimes, a long time ago like 1940's there was a virus on the farm that caused more deformation than usual.
I dont think She would have to worry about it happening again.
Good Luck
She plans to breed the birds again but what could cause a backcross to have problems like this?
I'm not sure if it was because the father's genes might've been strong or something else.
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Its kind of random just as twins in humans ya know.
Ive done alot of work with pigeons working on a nesting farm.
It just happens somtimes, a long time ago like 1940's there was a virus on the farm that caused more deformation than usual.
I dont think She would have to worry about it happening again.
Good Luck
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