Thursday, May 7, 2009

Another bird question?

Just a question...I've been trying to figure this out for a while
do 1-2 week old pigeons need to be fed during the night?
I meant like 3:00 am for example. A simple yes or no is fine.
Answers:
No. Pigeons are diurnal. In the wild, they sleep at night.
A pigeon that is only 1-2 weeks old should be fed by the parent birds, who will know when the baby needs to be fed.
you have to make sure the crop always has food in it so if you make sure its quite full before you go to sleep that should be ok
feed them at midnight --cover them with a towel them they are ok till no later than 6 am

Animals do urinate but the hen (birds)alone do not urinate?


Answers:
Birds do urinate but it comes out as a white paste.
Yeah when they crap it does both urinate and excrements.
They do, but the urine is blended into their faeces.
A birds excretory system is like a reptiles. Only mammals urinate.
You know when you walk out to your newly washed car, and theres that white pasty bird crap that just appears? That would be their pee. Or their equivalent.

Animal control?

When I was at LBI, New Jersey there was a large bird on the beach that was sick/injured. It was Pelican sized, but with a smaller beak. Me and my dad called EVERY single place we could think of that would rescue the bird (like the people that run the bird sanctuary on the end of the island). They all said that nobody wanted to do anything about it because it wasn't %26quot;exotic%26quot;. Finally we gave into calling animal control. When animal control came they picked the bird up by it's neck, not supporting it's body or anything. Is that normal procedure/humane?
I thought it was cruel...
Answers:
Animal control is just that control whats the easiest animal to control
A DEAD ONE
never call animal control if you are interested in saving the animal.
it sounded cruel, and most likely they just euthanized the bird
I was cruel.
Animal control is usually (usually, people, I know plenty of people doing God's work here) just disposal.
Next time, look up wildlife rehabilitation centers.
Maybe it looked cruel, but a large bird can really hurt someone, especially if they are terrified and out of their element. I work for a vet that will rehab almost anything. We need to respect the animal and realize that they are not domestic. Usually it is hand's off if we want to return them to their normal life.
Another note, anyone that works for any kind of animal control is a hero to me. It is a low paying, no thanks kind of job and I know they see things that most of us would not want to imagine.
you should have taken care of it yourself. animal control is when you call someone to dispose of the animal, not help it. V_V poor little guy... humans are scum.
Some of these animal control people rescue different animals around the clock day in and day out so as far as they're concerned, it's %26quot;just another animal%26quot; which is pretty sad but that's (unfortunately) the reality of it all. It's not out of the ordinary for them to not do anything about the injured bird. If it was something like an eagle or some type of endangered species of bird, yes I'm sure measures would be taken to ensure the health and safety of the bird. For example, if it was an injured pigeon, much wouldn't be done. As you know pigeons are a dime a dozen. It's a sad situation especially for animal lovers such as ourselves who have to witness these things. We can't help but feel sorry for the animal that's treated without dignity and the memory of the action taken against the animals haunts us. I know it does me.
Never call animal control for an injured wild animal - they just destroy the animal. They are not in the business of rehabilitating wildlife.
Do not call a vet - vets are for pets, and most do not have the expertise to care for a wild animal, nor do they waant to, in most cases.
Do not call the humane society, the SPCA, a bird sanctuary, the police, or any other group that is not in the business of rehabilitating wild animals.
DO contact a licensed wildlife rehabilitator. You can find one here: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/contact.
These people are specially trained to care for sick, injured and orphaned wild animals. They have the state and federal licenses required to keep the wild animals until they are healthy enough to be released back into the wild. They are the only people you should ever contact if you find a sick, injured or orphaned wild animal.
If it is at all possible to save the animal, a licensed wildlife rehabilitator will do so. Euthanizing an animal is a last resort, for animals that are so sick or injured that they will not survive.
They also know how to handle the animals so that they do not further stress or injure them...NOT picking a bird up by the neck like a piece of trash!
If I had witnessed such treatment of a wild animal, I would have taken photos to document it, and contacted the humane society...or the biggest metro newspaper in the area. The person who handled the bird in that manner was guilty of animal abuse and cruelty.

Air Purifiers For Cockatiels?

I would like to know if anyone has a favorite air purifier that they use for their birds. I have cockatiels that are very dusty and sometimes their nostrils get clogged and inflammed. I try to spray them the best I can, but they are not always co-operative. Someone had mentioned to use an air purifier to help with the dust.Do they emit any chemicals I should be concerned about? Is one better than another or are they all basically the same? Any and all help greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!!
Answers:
http://www.air-purifiers-america.com/pro... when I had my cockatiel the dust was bad for me(I have asthma) and my poor tiel was getting clogged up sometimes. Check out the Alen filters, one like that are meant for ept dander adn will help you AND your pet. No you don't have to worry about chemicals just remember to change the filter. ;) I have had the best results from Alen filters. Especially the ones made for pet dander.
I've not heard of anyone using an air purifier. No matter what you do, they will always put out the dust. I would suggest misting more often. Even if they appear to unhappy about it, its really the best way to prevent respiratory issues.
Cockatiels will always be dusty birds because they have powder down rather than oils for cleaning and preening feathers. I would doubt the dust is causing clogged and inflammed nostrils. Maybe they have sinus infections or another disease that is causing these problems. A visit to the vet will assist in solving the problem of what is the cause.
I have about 100 cockatiels and we are in a drought at the moment so things have never been this dusty. Not one bird has trouble with inflammed or blocked nostrils.
Misting your birds will help immensely with preening and their feather condition. Do not spray the bird directly but aim a soft mist above the birds so it falls onto them. Do this regularly and soon they will begin to look for it. All my outside birds rush to the cage front when it starts to rain so they can bathe. Not that it has done that for quite a while!
I have heard of people using air purifiers quite safely but they have also said it doesn't reduce the dust near the birds. You may have to accept they are just dusty birds and resort to daily vacuuming and cleaning to keep it down a bit.
Hi there! I have never had one Kathy and Remo has been fine! Laura.x

AH! found a injured bird on the lawn! what do i do??

i saw it fall from the roof..
and it was hopping around.then it went into a dark corner and stopped hopping.
i watched it for a while from a faraway distance and still it didnt move
I put it in a box with a towel so far..
now what?
i called the animal shelter and vet, but they said they were busy and told me to bring the bird in next weekkkkk.
so. now what?
Answers:
If you can not find the nest and place the bird back, contact a licensed wildlife rehabilitator. You can find one here:
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/contact.
Please, under no circumstances, attempt to care for the baby bird yourself. There is so much more to rehabilitation than keeping the animal alive until you think it is ready to be released. You have to know not only what to feed the bird, but how (please do not attempt to give the bird any liquid by dropper - baby birds can aspirate and die), how much and how often. You also have to know how to assess the birds general health and condition.
A baby bird kept in captivity must be taught to recognize and find the type of food it will eat in the wild. If it is being hand-fed, it may not associate the bugs and berries and seeds in nature as being food. It must also have the opportunity to exercise its wings a lot, so it will be able to fly on or shortly after release. When I volunteered at the Avian Rehabilitation Center, we kept the rehabilitating fledglings in a large walk-in cage with lots of shelves and branches leading from one shelf to the other, and down to the ground. We would place different types of food in the cage for them, as they were being weaned from the hand-feeding formula. We offered seed, meal worms and chopped up fruit. No fledgling was released until it was eating on its own, had sufficient weight gain, had all of its flight feathers in good condition, had no sign of diarreah or nasal discharge, had clear eyes, and could fly at least a few feet in a straight line.
These are the reasons to get the bird to a licensed rehabilitator - they have the training and the resources necessary to do all this, in addition to having the permits to do it all legally.
All native migratory birds in the US are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, and you must have the proper permits to have them, even for a short time, even for good reasons like saving them. Many other countries also have similar laws regarding their native species

Edit - please do not call or listen to anyone who offers to help you %26quot;step by step%26quot; to save this bird. As noted - it is ILLEGAL to keep the bird, even for the noble purpose of saving it. It must be turned over to a licensed professional.
And nestlouie, it is VERY foolish for anyone to give their phone number on a forum like this - it is dangerous. Anyone can see it and call you for any reason. Please be more careful in the future. Also, please do not make public offers to help someone do something illegal. Do not encourage this person do anything other than take the bird to a licensed wildlife rehabilitator.
what kind of bird is it? what does it look like? i would take it to a local wild life center check the phone book or look online
That happened to me before. The bird will probably die. But make sure it has water and food. Or take it to the vet and tell them that you found it and they'll take it and help it w/out charging you a penny.
Although the popular belief is that the parents will not accept the baby back once it has been touched by a human is not true. If you know where the nest is you can place it back in the nest and it is likely that the parents will care for it.
Well, you should probably do the right thing, take care of it. If it's a wild bird, go to a pet store or something and buy wild bird seed. And, of course, give it water. It actually all depends on if you are going to keep the bird or let it free. Just think, do you really want to spend all of the money you would need to spend on the cage for it, the food, and shavings? Also, do you want to take all that time to clean the cage? If you're going to let it go, you should probably not buy as big of a cage as you would if you are going to keep it.
call the department of lands and Forrest's and tell them i think they will come and get the bird and take it to a animal shelter where it can get medical treatment.
get some bird food and wrap that leg up really well so it can't injure itself more with that broken leg. dunno on how to give it water though, and let it hop around a bit, it needs exercise
What kind of bird is it? If you don't know,then a food that will agree with most birds is dry dog food,softened with water,hard - boiled egg yolk mixed with an equal amount of bread crumbs and a bit of water,and insects.Also provide fresh water in a shallow dish.Is there a local wildlife center in your area? They would take the bird and treat any injuries it might have.Your local police department or zoo should know of wildlife centers or rehabilitators in your area.
What kind of finch? If it's a goldfinch,or a house finch,then you nees to give it sunflower and thistle seds,or canary seed.You can tell if it's a baby by looking at the picture of the adult bird in the book.Does it look just like it? If it does,then it's an adult,as babies don't get their adult coloring until they have their first molt.Also,a baby wil have shorter wings,downier - looking feathers,and just look more juvenile.
that happened to me to i took care of it and mine was a dove if yours is to give it cherry juice for a treat and give it bird food not worms check on it every once and a while i had to leave mine outside for i was only 14 i left him in a bush over night with food and water good luck!
You should not ever touch a wild bird, which can often carry a disease called psitticosis, also known as parrot fever (even if it is not a parrot.) You should call your local county game warden to come look at it instead. Injured birds sometimes suffer from west nile virus, meningitis, or other diseases that humans can catch as well... Avoid touching any wild bird, even if injured. It could cause you an illnes..
put a heating pad under the towel
feed it smashed worms and/or other bugs
call the environmental center
you can tell if it is a baby if it is bald,or it has fuzzy feathers called down, or has feathers (still alittle bald) and has down feathers
well first find out if it is bleeding hold it carefully in case it has a broken bone if it is bleeding there isn't much you can do but if it's not find out what kind of bird it is and then you can find out what to feed it keep it in a box with something for it to lye down on and keep it some where quiet and hope the vets office gets to check it but some times there is nothing you can do besides keep it safe and warm until it dies I hope that's not the case
It is very difficult to keep a young bird alive, especially if it is injured or incredibly frightened. Many birds will not accept food. However, there are a select few that will stay alive until they can be released or until a trained professional can take them off your hands.
I would like to point out that is a myth that bird parents won't accept their babies back if they are handled by people. Normally, the parents will be very upset if their babies are taken and will stay in the area where the baby was taken for the first few days afterwards. If you are able to locate the nest, I strongly suggest to put the baby back. However, if the nest is inaccessible or can't be found, rehabilitation is the best course of action. Remember that the baby might be diseased and won't ever be healthy. If that's the case, I'd put the baby back where I found it and let nature takes its course. This may seem harsh, but it's the circle of life.
Here are my suggestions on how to keep it alive:
Line a box with Kleenex-type tissues and form them into a nest shape. Keep the nest away from cold drafts. You can provide heat using a 60- to 100- watt bulb. Place an inexpensive thermometer in the nest and make sure the temperature is always about 95 degrees Fahrenheit for very young birds and slightly cooler for older birds (about 70 degrees Fahrenheit for birds with full feathers). Remove the light if the bird stays away from it, as it may be too hot.
The basic diet for young birds is a complete can of dog food, and a mixture of one egg yolk and enough homogenized milk to make 6 ounces. DO NOT MIX THE DOG FOOD AND EGG/MILK TOGETHER. Be sure not to use a dog food that is very oily or greasy. Keep the mixture in the refrigerator. It doesn't need to be warmed up before feeding. To feed, roll the dog food into bite-sized pellets (about the size of a small pea) and dip it into the formula. When the bird opens its mouth, put the pellet in the back of its mouth. The formula should provide enough water for the baby. However, if it reaches for your finger and tries to grasp it, it is probably thirsty. Dip your finger in water and offer it to the bird.
Be sure not to cuddle or pet a baby bird. They usually do not enjoy this. It is fine to hold them in your hand; they like this because of your warmth. They also seem to enjoy being talked to.
Once the bird is able to hop out of the box and no longer stays with the light for warmth, it is time for the bird to be released. It is advisable to let it outside for 20 to 30 minutes each day for flying lessons. Put it on the ground and let it hop around for a bit until it learns to fly. If you have a porch, put the bird's box out there. After a few lessons, don't take it inside and let it go back to the box on its own accord. Over time, it will stop coming back to the box and that's when you know that your baby bird is all grown up.
I hope that my answer was helpful. Don't blame it on yourself it the bird does not survive. It may not have been in good health when you found it. Just remember that you have used every reasonable measure to aid it's survival. Good luck!
it is very important that you : do not leave this bird! either call me a.s.a.p. (714) 386-0299 I'll help guide you through the next steps. The odds of saving an abandoned bird are very low, but it can be done if you are careful, and take the time to learn from someone who has experience. I'LL HELP YOU
Please listen to Margecutter...the only answer that gave you correct advice...get this bird to a wildlife rehab in your area for it's best chance of survival. Do not attempt to care for it on your own..it will most likely die and it is illegal.

African Grey?

I am looking into getting my first african grey. Anyone on here have one that could tell me anything they know about them. Are they noisy in comparison to other parrots? Is it better to get a baby ? what age is a good age toi get the parrot at? Im aware of what it needs as far as housing and toys and enrichment as far as playing with the bird. I have also located a good avain vet thats relatively in my area. Im just wondering what anyones expierences are with these birds. I also know of the many subspecies timneh, erithacus, and the princeps, what can you tell me about each. Im just trying to get as much info from people that have these birds i have done a lot of research on the internet but first hand expierence from real owners would be greatly appreciated.
Answers:
I've had one for 7 years now, and mine isn't really noisy (my Conure makes far more racket) but he IS a talker. He picks up everything, including some things I wish he'd forget (fat chance, they've got the memory of an elephant!). They say Africans have the cognitive ability of a 5 year old human child. Mine certainly does. He not only says words, but whole sentences. And he doesn't just mindlessly repeat sounds, like most parrots do. He not only knows what to say, but exactly when to say it. Once when I had his cage by a window, he pulled the curtain into his cage to play with (shredded the damn thing too!). I pulled it out, and Bogie went right back and pulled it in again. Then I moved his cage about a foot from the window (and the curtain -- or what was left of it anyway), so he goes back ready to do it again, reached the bars and realized he couldn't, turned to look at me, cocked his head and said, %26quot;Well, sh*t!%26quot; I was practically rolling on the floor laughing! He also imitates my wife when she's on the phone. Our bedroom is right next to Bogie's room, so he gets a real earful sometimes. One afternoon my wife and I were changing the sheets on our bed when we heard Bogie in the next room, in a perfect immitation of my wife's voice: Hello. Oh hi, Lisa (my wife's sister)! How are you? Noooooo! You're trippin' girl!%26quot; I told my wife she'd never be able to cheat on me as long as Bogie was alive. He'd rat her out in a New York minute! He also does noises other than speech, and Africans are such perfect mimics, it's like that old commercial for recording tape, %26quot;Is it real, or is it Memorex?%26quot; He immitates my wife's dog so well, the first time I heard him, I thought the dog had gotten shut in Bogie's room. A bus used to go past our house early in the morning and turned the next corner as soon as it passed. It had very squeaky brakes, and every morning at 6:15, we heard the driver apply those brakes right in front of our house. You could have set your watch by him! Well, Bogie did those brakes so well, you'd swear that bus was going down my upstairs hall! Bottom line? You'll never be sorry you got an African.
It will be like having a two year old child for 80 years. Top three talkers. Get hand raised or you're wasting your money.
My dad owned one, before I was born so I am going to tell you what he told me. They are very very senstivie birds, and often spazz's. They are drama kings/queens. The littlest thing can freak them out. The hand moved: AHHH the toys swung: AHHH! My human left the room: AHHH! They can be just as loud as many larger parrots, but it is tolerable if you have a bird that only screams once in awhile rather than all the time. The other grey's(Timnehs, etc) are pretyt much the same except for coloring. All very intelligent, and pretty much the same in behavior. You want to get a young parrot, definately younger than 6 years old. Get it from a breeder that sells at a fair price and will elt you spend time with the birds for a couple hours deciding. Let the bird pick you. Birds will go play with a human they like. No point in buying a bird that doesn't like you. Also buying a young parrot has the advantage that you can socializwe it with your family and friends so it doesn't terrorize everyone. Since some tend to bond with one person, if you don't socialize them young. It is like having a toddler for 50+ years, but they offer much joy and often make you laugh with their playful natures and intelligence. They can definatley learn to talk, and most do although there is always the oddball somewhere. It is better to get a younger bird so that they can form a deep bond with you but in the end it wouldn't matter. A 10 year old grey could probably bond with you just as well as a 2 year old,or a 7 month old. They are very sensitive though just remember a one second mistake could eally affect your relationship/bond of 10 years. But a grey is a really good pet bird is treated right. They are pretyt demanding compared to other parrots and are mor eprone to plucking in stressful situations. Some like to cuddle and some just want scritches.
First let me say my experience is that they are curious but do not freak out at everything. You just have to learn to introduce them to new things and always say, %26quot;you're alright, it's okay%26quot;. They can handle anything if trained from a baby. Mine dealt with the sound of a nail gun and sheets of tin last week when I installed a tin ceiling. She NEVER screams, but calls %26quot;You Whoooo%26quot; when she wants to get my attention. Don't let people scare you, they are what you make them. Read on:
My Congo African Grey is 14 months old, she's been home for 11 months. She was just 6 weeks old when I got her and visited her daily at the parrot shop until I could take her home. She started seriously talking about a month ago, did a lot of vocalizing and practising prior to that. Are they noisy? I would say no. They have their talking periods, generally morning and evening. I played whistling tunes for her to listen to from the time I got her home, also Kenny G cd's, now she sings constantly. Very easy to train and tame if you give them plenty of attention. That's their main focus, being with you or at least seeing you. Don't feed them any junk food, you don't want them to loose their appetite for what's good for them. They need plenty of toys. Start traing immediately, 20 minutes of one on one time each day is ideal. Mine could identify shapes and colors by 4 months. Now she looks up when I say %26quot;See the blue sky%26quot;. They are soooo incredibly smart. She travels well, loves car trips. I take her on vacations with me. Her wings are clipped so that she doesn't hurt herself flying into things in the house. I can't imagine my life without her. Oh yes, one important thing. She goes to bed between 7-8:00pm and once the cover is on the cage I don't hear a peep. She loves to go to bed. If I don't put her to bed when she's ready she'll fly down from her perch, walk to her room and climb up into the cage. Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy!
They are not as needed as say a goffin .. They are happy to play alone with toys ..I put toys on top hung down and leave the cage door open all day .. They are like a 2 year old can be loud seems to be like noon in the sun happy sounds they make ..But then again not as bad as a goffin ..They are the best talkers!! and get a hand fed baby 3 months old ..They should run from 950.00 to 1200.00 find a good in home breeder .. The TAG and the CAG look just about the same other then the tail is red on the CAG and black red tint on the TAG the TAGS beak is like a nail with pink in it and talks just as good the body it a tad smaller on the TAG too ..With the AG you have to rember they are SMART !! and you will need to change toys rotate them they get bored easy ..And give them the same amount of time when you get the bird as you will the rest of its life they do NOT like change!! If you get the bird spend 24/7 with it then change that time they may start to pluck ..99% of plucked greys are from owners change in life ..
Good luck
I'm hoping you've done your homework on the diets of these birds. They need a special diet directed at the vitamin A and D deficiency. Seed diets do not cut it with any bird let alone this species of bird.
African greys tend to be a one person bird, therefor do not tend to be a family orientated pets. They have the mental capicity of a 7 yr old child, so they don't forget if you do something wrong. They are also neurotic birds and are prone to be pluckers if you have a change of life style later down the road.
Whether you get a different sub species or not, they all have the same qualities as the others. Only difference is the price and an inch in size and color.
Make sure you get it to a vet and run a CBC, Pssit, and a gram stain for the least amount of border line testing to cover your own backside. This way you have a guidline when and if the bird ever does get sick, they know what the normal limits are of the bird. This also is a guarantee the bird is healthy when you bought it.
The bird should also be eatting off your table as a baby. The more variety of foods the bird eats, the healthier your bird will be. The more vitamins, proteins, and minerals the bird gets out of it's food. Feed it what you eat, and the bird will live a longer and happier life. Use some common sense and it will take your far. Treat it as a child, and you will be fine.
Good Luck!
Grey are very smart and live a loooong time.
They dont think so much like humans but can really surprise you at times. They take a lot of committment and need lots of interaction.
You seem to have done lots of homework and likely will be doing so for years to come. Good on ya!
My grey isnt really noisy but he likes to be the one to make ME mimic him---He picks the tunes and I am supposed to follow in his game of %26quot;einstein%26quot; I think is the version.
My Grey is a rescue so he came with a broken wing and issues of his own which we are working through.
Good luck to you.
I have a 7-year-old CAG that I've had since he was six months old. I love him so much!
He's a great talker.
He imitates everyone in the house. He's hilarious!
He freaks out over bright pink and red objects. He always has. He squawks a lot if I wear my bright-pink bathrobe, or when my son carries a hot-pink towel.
He takes a while to %26quot;warm up%26quot; to his toys, but plays with them (read: destroys) when he gets used to them being there.
He loves toys that he can rip apart. Things made of wood, especially. Also, %26quot;not to worry beads,%26quot; which are hard plastic beads on a string - cracks 'em in half with his beak. In addition to the dietary needs, be sure to look into keeping your bird entertained. If they get bored or stressed out, Greys are notorious pluckers.
we have a congo and a timneh. like any birds, they have their loud moments, but even then it is so cool to hear them saying the new words they've learned. they are both great with our children. they both take to change really well. they are no where near being neurotic or feather pluckers. our timneh will ask for a cracker and let you know when he's ready to go night night. they do tend to both prefer my husband over anyone else, but the will let all of us pet them and play with them. i prefer our timneh(can't say about all timnehs though) because he seems to be a little more laid back and is just over all a better behaved bird. of course he is about a year older than our congo. i think they are both great and you wouldn't regret getting either one of them.
It is probably better to get a baby African Grey. But the babies Babel a lot just like human babies. They're learning new words and they kind of jumble them together at first but it's realy cute.
my cag, shadow is 4.5 months old and im in love!!!
let me tell you how i came about him. i wanted a greenwing macaw and my husband went to see a breeder to try and find me one and the breeder had a pet grey. leave it to the grey as soon as my husband walked in that grey said everyword and made every sound he knew and my husband was quite impressed. well about 1 hr later he came home, told me he paid for our bird and that the rest of us had to meet him. we get there to see the scrawniest bird ever, and of course not a macaw but a cag. i did not want a grey. they are nervous, neurotic, very impersonal one person birds and i wasnt having it, besides the little bastard bit too. my husband knew how to handfeed birds so he brought him home when he was on two feedings and of course as soon as he had to go to work, i got stuck with him. we did not like each other but i had to feed him so i tried. he is not nervous, neurotic or impersonal. he is a huge lovebug who never leaves me alone. at only 4.5 months he wolf whistles, laughs, does the monkey sound and imitates my parakeets to a t. my favorite thing is when my conure falls off his cage, or when my kids trip or whatever he laughs his head off. he has to eat with us at our table and he loves chasing my kids. he is only loud if angry/scared and again, so smart and funny. younger is better if you want to be able to handle him, but if you are ok with taking it slow and bonding more through talking than petting an adult will be fine. good luck, have fun.
I have a hand raised timneh, and he is 9 months old, and also a 6 year old congo who I recently got after she picked all of her feathers out at her last owners. Now my opinion is, the congo has more beautiful colouring, and her voice is very clear. She learns new phrases very quickly. Her feathers are growing back but she is still mutilating some of them.
The timneh is very devoted to me, he comes off of his cage looking for me but is also very moody and if he is not happy will gladly give me a good bite on my hand. He likes to sing out sounds and talks a little bit. Both love kisses and attention, they go outside with me too. They don't like to be close to my dogs or strangers. They are quiet most of the day except for a while in the morning and evening, and are still much quieter than our amazon. I paid full price for the Timneh and not much for the congo, and I love her just as much so if I was you I would get one that is neglected and give it a second chance at a better life. So many people get them and once the novelty wears off they leave them locked in their cages eating just pellets . This is just heartbreaking for these birds, don't get one unless you intend to handle it every day!

African grey?

were can i get a African grey?
Answers:
From your previous question you only want an African Grey for its amazing talking ability...
Keep in mind that if you haven't had experience with birds before, this bird WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE AND CONTROL YOU.
You need to be there 24/7 for him. Their cages should be open all day, or most of the day so they can go out and play whenever they want to. It would be EXTREMELY HARD to introduce a new pet or family member to an african grey-they will not be accepting at first. Heck, a new pair of glasses or a new hat may upset the bird.
And finally, it's EXTREMELY GREEDY that you only want a bird for its talking ability.
-...A parakeet to an AG is a huge step, dude.
Check out a shelter first, there are so many birds that need homes. Please make sure you really want one because they require a lot of work and patience
Simply do a search for a breeder in your local area. Find one that can answer all of your questions about the breed and appears to be reputable. Get references from previous buyers and from their avian vet to be sure the birds are well taken care of.
Getting a parrot from a pet store is not advised. These are often ill, although it is difficult to tell just by looking at them. Birds are at high risk for disease transmission when they are exposed to other birds, excess stress and other animals. Pet store birds are passed around many times and are exposed to all sorts of other birds and pets.
These can cost a good bit of money, so be sure to put your money in good stock. You don't want to spend a lot of money on a bird that ends up getting sick later on.
You can also try calling your local avian vet to see if they recommend any african gray breeders in y our area!
i would recommend you check on the internet , or your yellow pages ,or any newspaper ads that sell birds i am sure youll find one, good luck on finding one
try to get one from a quality breeder dont just buy one at your local pet store because you will know nothing about its background and a breeder will be more then willing to give you advice and help if needed along with the birds history. ask your local vet who does exotic birds for the name of a good breeder.
Well you can look up breeders on the Internet, you can get one thru pet smart and pet co. They are very expensive birds, you have to have other people ready to take care of them in an emergency because they live for a long time. They are very loving and very smart birds. I would recommend one only if you are serious and will have the time of day to love and pay attention to it.
If you only want a grey for its talking ability that's not fair to the bird and it sets you up for dissapointment. Grye's are very complex and ARE NOT like budgies. They need at least 2-4 hours a day. They don't need attention 24/7 like a cockatoo but they are still sensitive and require a couple hours a day. But a breeder is really your best bet especially if it is your first african grey. They can be veyr bad pets in the wrong hands. if you ever consider getting one please please do your research on their needs first.
Getting more knowledge on birds, particularly AG is fantastic. No one should ever consider buying one until they research everything they need to know about these guys. As intelligent as they are, they're highly needy birds %26 can have some shocking behaviours for those who don't do there research on them.
Now you will have to excuse us all for thinking you're getting one when you're talking about birds with excellent talking %26 understanding ability %26 asking where you can buy them from, afterall, if no one wanted one, they wouldn't ask where to get one from.
Owning parakeets all your life has nothing to do with having an AG. Besides the size of them they're ENTIRELY different %26 owning budgies doesn't make anyonw experienced in larger birds at all.
If you're serious about this (%26 don't jump down my throat) do research, as much as you can %26 ask locally where they are, pet shop, breeders etc..Have a look at them, continue to go back to visit them %26 check them out.
RESEARCH FIRST if you are intending on getting one.
And don't have a go at anyone else for their replies, we all know what it takes to own more than just budgies %26 they all had every right to answer the way they did. You took it apon yourself to take offence at al this instead of sitting back %26 reading it all. That isn't neccessary, especially when you have given this forum the indication that you want a talking parrot. You don't have to listen to anyone here, but ya don't have to be rude either.
my brother has an african grey for a few months now and they realy love each other. but my brother also raised him since he was a baby. and that is why they love each other so much. and getting a bird from a pet store is not a bad thing !!
i have gotten 4 birds from the pet store and they are all very healthy and have not spred any kind of desise onto any of my other birds. any hoo an african grey, i think not to sure takes up to a year to realy learn how to talk. but if you want to get a parrot you need to spend a few (2 to 4) hours with it every day, but it is worth it because they become your little shadow and they love you sooo much. you could get one from a breeder though or even a pet store but make sure he is tame or you could rescue one those birds need the most help they can get. good luck and i think that if you get one you will be a great owner. because your asking questions and want to learn more about the animal. ;) but make sure you have the time or your life will be very hectic.!

African Grey, Amazon or other?

Can anyone tell me the pro's and cons of each and any other good pet parrots around the same size? I wont be getting one now, I wouldnt be allowed, but for future use. I wouldnt get a macaw.
I have 3 budgies in a huge cage at the moment, had canaries and 2 weavers in an aviary and a brilliant tame cockatiel, I know loads about birds so don't worry.
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First off: Right now very few birds are being importated, especially if you buy from a breeder. Breeders breed birds that are tame one because that is what buyers want. People don't want wild caught birds as pets...they bite scream adn aren't suited for people. Now a days that's rare, very very rare. African Grey's make good pets, but only if you have 2-5 hours a day to spend with them. They are prone to pluckign and screaming. But they are intelligent and smart adn fidn ways to make you laugh that many birds don't. Though they aren't always cuddly they can form strong bonds with their family. But beware: They tend to be one eprson birds if not socialized and you may not think that is bad: But it is. It cna cause problems when your bird is attacking your mother all the time. Bad idea. Amazons are the same way, can become one person birds but they aren't as prone to plucking but they tend to be louder than a Grey. An amazon will sound like %26quot;OW OW OW OW OW!%26quot; like a kid screaming, it gets annoying after awhile if you don't like noise. http://www.centralpets.com/pages/similar... Here is a list of some birds around that size, just clik the name and you get the basic info. I don't recommend cockatoo's unless you ahve had a larger parrot first because cockatoos are very sensitive, and very very complex and intelligent. They are the most emotional of all the bird species and they are very hard to keep. Even the small Too's can be a pain if you don't know how to care for them. Budgies and tiels don't compare to the larger parrots, Grye's, Amazons, and Cockatoos as well as macaws(even the minis) Can test even the most deicated bird lover's patience. Start small and go up, you cna always add more. I'd start with a large conure something like a Cherry head or mitred. Thye are about 15 inches long and about that size of an amazon and are loud too, but they aren't on that extremem level. Conures are cuddly clowns while amazons, that are loving may not be cuddly.
After I saw how they capture parrots %26 ship them to the countries that want them as pets I wouldn't recommend ever owning one. If we stop the demand then they won't need to rip them from their nests, capture them in nets %26 ship them in bulk in dark containers where half of them die before they get to their destination.
We had an African Grey one time that every time it heard the sounds of the jungle went absolutely mad. He couldn't be tamed and we ended up giving him up. If you find an aviary that breeds them that would be a different story. Remember parrots live to be over 100 years old so they are definitely a life time pet.
Generally speaking, the larger the bird, the bigger the problems. Greys, cockatoos, macaws.are a whole new world from what you currently have.
I learned the hard way after raising conures and quakers for years, I made the jump by trading for a grey and cockatoo.
In my opinion, these birds can not be kept happily in a cage. They are too intelligent and easily develope serious behavior and mental problems. (starvation, plucking, continuous noise, biting, self mutilation, exclusive bonding)
Check out bird rescue sites and see how many large parrots are available---this should be a warning to everyone.
Work your way up gradually. Small parrots have some of the same attributes while avoiding the problems. Try a large conure, quaker or lori.
Leave the big birds to the true experts.
If you're not buying from a pet store, but from a private breeder, you really don't need to worry that much about illegal capture and shipment of wild parrots. I am friends with an Avian vet here locally and she breeds all of her own birds and has acquired all of her birds from other breeders - so these are a long line of birds that have been raised in a domestic sense - not snatched from the rainforests.
Either way.. I think it's a lot of personal preference on your part as far as what you think you'd enjoy in a parrot. Both are extremely excellent, are great talkers, and if given the attention and love they desire they're both extremely affectionate towards their owners.
I think Amazons are a little less likely to become agitated biters or impatient as far as attention is concerned. But - I've noticed that Amazons use their mouths a lot more than Greys. Maybe look into the smaller greys (Tymnehs) or maybe even look into Red Bellies?
I think Red Bellies are great and if I didn't already have 4 finches with barely any room to add another bird in my apartment I would definitely snatch one up. They're not AMAZING talkers but they will talk - they're not huge parrots so you can get away with a medium sized parrot cage.. they're extremely comical and they're also gorgeous.
Note to Lucy: In the USA we do not import wild caught birds. Birds here are domestically bred, sold and raised. I agree, I too could never own a wild caught bird.
Presently I own an African Grey, hatched in Florida 14 months ago. I can't speak for other parrots but from my experience ( I've owned her for 13 months) she is smart, funny and lovable. She enjoys singing, copying songs she hears me sing or play. She loves her toys and is a very good eater, all good things, fruits, veggies, grains and pellets. I too have raised a variety of different birds, canaries, parakeets, doves, homing pigeons, chickens but never a parrot. I choose an African Grey because of their intelligence. For that it cannot be beat. At four months she could identify colors and shapes, at 12 months she was talking. She loves every member of our family (four of us), she does not get frightened (as I was told she would by changes) in fact we are re-modeling our home around her and as long as we're in the room, she wants to watch. We took her on vacation with us, drove 8 hours to our vacation home and she seemed to thoroughly enjoy the adventure. What came as a suprise to me was that she recognized our neighborhood and got visually excited as we approached our home. I cannot tell you what a joy she is, words could never adequately express our affection for this precious bird. We look forward to a very long life with her and my sons are already vieing for her as an inheritance.
african grey parrots tend to have the mind of a 4 yr old human, they can tell colors, shapes, have a vocabulary of about 8,000 words and are probably the smartest you can find.
macaws and cockatoos have the mind of about a 3 yr old human, their vocabulary is a lot smaller, but they are still very smart.
i have a red macaw at the moment, and my sister has a cockatoo...so if you have any specific questions feel free to email me
Why not use your PC and do research yourself and join some yahoo bird groups.
Please don't buy any more birds until you make the effort and take the time to learn about all captive birds needs and this includes diet and behaviors.
Do it for yourself and do it for the bird.
Also know that each birds personality is different in any one species like humans are.
I see that nobody mentioned Senegals, so I will. They are much smaller than an Amazon or Gray. Very nice looking. They don't talk as well as the other birds though. They make up in personality what they lack in speech.

African Grey Parrot Breeders in Conneticut or New York?

Does Anyone know or is a breeder of african grey parrots or any othe bird that is in Conneticut or New York? if so, do you konw thier website?
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http://www.petfinder.org It has all kinds of animals, some strays and some from breeders. You may find one there. You can search by state.
www.friendlyparrot.com
ONE OF NEW YORK'S LARGEST HOME BASED BABY PARROTS BREEDERS FROM QUAKER PARROT TO MACAWS
Do a google or yahoo search for
African Grey Breeder -New York
Or search the yellow pages online.

African Grey Parrot Breeders in Conneticut or New York?

Does Anyone know or is a breeder of african grey parrots or any other bird that is in Conneticut or New York? if so, do you know thier website?
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Check out this site. Hope it is helpful
Hhttp://www.friendlyparrots.com/...
NJ: http://www.friendlyparrots.com/...
NY: http://ny.oodle.com/sale/pet/bird/-/pet_...

African Grey or Macaw?

Which should I get ...? Are there any differences in these birds ..? Intelligence wise? Life Span? Ect ...Thank you!
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Depending on how old you are, know that both are like sending a child to college on the amount of the cost. A grey does not demand the cage space a macaw does. A macaw also has a loud scream compare to a grey. Macaws will voice their opinions more so then a grey and need to be vocal. Where as a grey will and can tend to be more noise makers. Greys can be plucker's if you modify their daily schedule in the slightest. Both can live to be 80+ with a proper diet of pellets and veggies, pasta, meat, cheese, fruits, and table food. Both have specific food requirements.
Greys have a vitamin A and D deficiencies, while the macaw needs a high protein diet which is found in meat. Both are found to die of Fatty Liver Disease which cuts into their life span drastically.
The macaws tend to get nasty when they hit sexual maturity, and if you have never had a bird i would not reccomend one as a first bird. A macaw has a 750lb beak pressure, and for that reason alone they can be intimidating to a new bird owner. You can NOT fear a beak on a macaw, or they will rule you.
Most macaw cages have play pen tops, why(it's the most stupid things cage designers have done)who knows, macaws should never be above your eye level. That means never allow the bird on your shoulder, if you choose a macaw. Macaws do more damage to people's faces sitting on shoulders then i have seen in all my years (20+ yrs).
The intelligence wise, both have the intelligence of 7 yr old children, but so do cockatoos. I do not beleive the greys are the #1 talkers, i have dealt with cockatoos that are much smarter then a grey could ever be. Never saw a grey pick a pad lock and then place the key back where they got it from and look to see if anyone saw them do it, LOL. Other species of birds were never tested yet, that's all.
The diets are important, so you want a baby that has the right diet. The more variety of foods you feed, the healthier the bird will be. Feeding one thing, is not going to make your bird healthy. Feed it what you eat, and off your table will give the bird the variety of vitamins, proteins, and minerals the bird needs to be healthy.
What bird you pick is entirely up to you. Know that it's a life time commitment and think now that if something might change in your life, this kid isn't leaving home for the rest of your life. It's something you will be passing onto your relatives if you feed it properly. So if your life style changes, or you go to college, this bird will be with you. Don't make this decision lightly.
Good Luck with your decison!
I like macaws. They are much bigger and better looking, but the Greys are among the top talkers.
Which every bird you buy, it will be a life long commitment. Both birds would need much care and attention, even more than humans as they get very bored easily. I find that the African Grey is a fantastic mimic, really human sounding. I don't have much experience with Macaws but they do have very big beaks being a much larger bird! I think the life span of a macaw is around 60-80 years and the best pets are the gold and blue ones, either male or female. Try www.allmacaws.com. Not sure how long an African Grey lives but I would have thought 20+ years at least. Both parrots are extremely intelligent. Good luck
Parrots - any parrot - can easily live up to 100 years, so you might want to consider that when you're looking at these birds. Both are very intelligent; but it really depends on how much you're willing to work with them to get them to understand what it is that you want them to do! I think the African Greys might comprehend things faster; and they are very much a one-man bird - meaning they will take faster to one particular person. Both birds need to be socialized with other people; as with any parrot...and macaws are naturally bigger, and probably more expensive. But, you would have to check out the breeder and get some more research on your birdie selection! But they're great companions and lifelong friends to have if you're willing to dedicate some time, love and affection.
Both of the species can live a long time (you will probably have to will them), require alot of space and attention, and are very intelligent, provided you spend time with them teaching them. My dad has always had macaws, and my good friend has a grey. Dad's house is alot louder!! A macaw's piercing screams can cause your ears to ring, if you get one of the larger species. Both of these kinds of birds can also be very intimidating to someone who is not experienced with them. Hyacinth macaws are known for being the most laid back and easy going of the species. They still can use their enormous beak and hurt you unknowingly if not trained properly, and they carry a hefty price tag. Probably the most expensive of the macaws, and one of the largest next to the green-wing and the Buffon's (or great green). Macaws can also be pretty messy. I remember when I was really young and dad went to go get his first blue and gold from a breeder, she said to make sure we put newspapers outside of the cage for about 3 feet all the way around the cage, we didn't believe her. We soon learned once we got home! Any way if you love the macaw species, maybe look into getting a Hahn's macaw or yellow-collared macaw. They are alot smaller, easier to handle, beautiful, and smart. The Hahn's are my personal favorite of the smaller macaws, and the yellow-collared is also a great choice. The illiger's (dad has one that is his baby) and military macaw's are catagorized as mini-macaws. They are bigger than the Hahn's and yellow-collared (if your looking for a medium to large size bird) but not as huge as the blue and gold's, scarlet's, green-wing etc. Good- luck with whatever you choose!!

African grey has scab wound on chest thats not healing?

every time she falls the scab bursts open and bleeds.the sore never heals .what can i do
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I would take your bird to the vet as soon as possible. There isn't much blood in their little bodies so you don't want them bleeding. I have an african grey too, and if mine had a problem like this a vet would be the first place I would go to. At least call a vet clinic that specializes in birds and ask what you should do before you get to the vet.
you should go to a vet and have them look at it and that is the only answer that should be given at all or you will lose your bird.
Take your bird to a vet is what you should do. If the sore never heals,your bird may suffer a serious infection which could prove fatal. See a vet as soon as possible...
Absolutely take her to a Vet. Not only will they check it out but they'll give her something to help it heel. Why is she falling so much? It could be a vitamin deficiency that's causing both problems.
This wound needs to be stitched up. It won't heal on it's own. An open wound like this will also allow harmful bacteria in and travel down the crop to infect the digestive tract. When that happens, the digestive tract will shut down and your bird will suffer the consequences.
In light of this whole matter, Don't wait, get this bird seen by a vet ASAP!! This is no laughing matter. Apparently this wound will and can get infected and cause some serious damage to your bird. It is on an area that you can not take lightly.
Unless you lower the perches so the bird can NOT fall to reopen the wound.
Good Luck!

Afew questions on Conures?

We have recently purchased a Sun Conure. he's in a good- sized cage with plenty of stuff(toys/chewingtoys/food /water /perches/one sandpaper portion of the perch)
The first problem was when we brought him home, he started bobbing his head and shifting back and forth runnung on the perch like a maniac. Now i wus worried because sometimes he would repeatedly bang his beak on the bars. I figured it wus because he's scared confused and overwhelmed about his new home.
next morning he acted more normal:he stopped moving back and forth/started to vocalize every now and then when someone left the room(rarely though, mostly he stays quiet or gives of a soft rumbling parrot squak, nothing loud or anything), he's now playing with toys chewing some wooden stuff.
Another broblem was with biting. he takes food from my hand and everything just like normal parrots do , but he seems too afraid of me so he bites when i bring my fingers close. recently his bites increased in force. slightly painful.
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First off. My sun does the beak bang too. NO it is not the sign for back off, my space. That is what cockatiels do. Suns conures do not have the same meaning to this.
For sun conures beak tapping, head bobbing, funny slow movements are all very normal for them %26 have nothing to do with fear, agro or saying what's theirs etc. It's all happy guestures. Sun conures are VERY comical with their sounds %26 movements!!
Your sun sounds perfectly normal for one who's only just arrived hiome. If he doesn't want to be touched, don't push, leave him be. They can get quite grouchy if pushed %26 will bight %26 threat with screams. They're never afraid to express themselves. He'll get used to you in no time at all so give him the time he needs first without being handled.
I found the wooden chew toys better as my sun can shred a conure foot or chew toy in seconds flat!! You may find yourslef making some toys. As they velcro birds (they love to shoulder ride 24/7) it might also pay for you to invest in a shoulder apron. Kinda like a bit of material that goes over your shoulders %26 have toys hanging off them, it'll save many holes in your clothes.
Once your sun is used to you %26 allowing you to get close to him, don't allow him to play with your fingers. They love to do this %26 encouragement can make them start to play very rough %26 they will hurt oyu. Replace fingers with toys when ever they start to explore your fingers with their beaks.
He may eat %26 drink but you don't see it. If he can climb well then he knows where the food is %26 will clomb down when he's hungry %26 thirsty. You don't need to lift it up for him.
Another thought is if you've changed his diet from what he was on before buying him. If you do this he's not farmiliar with the new food %26 may not eat it. Diet changes should be done very gradually %26 over time. You also need to be sure he's gonna eat the new food %26 not starve himeslf.
Give him the time he needs to adjust. I can be days to weeks. Sun conures normally warm up to their owners VERY quickly. I'm sure you'll be able to see the change in him when he's ready to get to know you properly. For the time being, loads of interaction with him only if he allows this, don't push it cos it will set him back a little. Offer treats every time he does something right or doesn't bite you or moves closer to you etc...
this all seems normal to me. he seems like he is geting accustomed to his new home well. you can expect him to try to bite you for at least a few weeks. try putting your hands on the cage in front of him for awhile just so he can see it and seeit isnt going to harm him. dont make sudden movements when going into the cage to pet him. let him nibble on you a little and dont raise your voice when he bites. birds learn to repeat actions that they get a response out of. so if you yell he will see you respond to it and keep doing it. hope this helps!
I have a two websites that may help:
http://www.sunconure.com/
http://www.concentric.net/~conure/conure...
it does seem normal to me but don't use sand paper on perches. They are %26quot;supposedly%26quot; designed to trim the parrot's nails but it only irritate it. Just keep feeding him by hand and he'll eventually come around.
First off i don't know where you purchased this bird, but the banging on the bars is a symbol of %26quot;knocking%26quot; is meant to be %26quot;this is my cage, stay away%26quot;! It's a warning sign to all.
Second, remove that sand paper perch cover, they are hazardous to birds.
Third, ALL conures have a blood clotting disorder that can NOT be taken lightly. So if you are feeding a seed diet, that has to be changed to a pelleted diet along with dark green leafy veggies that are high in vitamin K. Those are cooked cabbage, kale, collard greens, broccoli, green beans, peas, etc.
Sun conures are LOUD birds, so don't run back into the room when the bird screams. Ignore the screaming and only bring positive attention when the bird does not scream. Talk to him and start teaching the bird to talk, only when he's quiet and not screaming. This deters the loud screaming in loud conures.
Predomiantly, this is why so many conures end up in rescues, because pet stores and some, not all, breeders don't teach people how to deter the loud screaming of them.
Good Luck and Congrats on your new family member!
mine has always being shy and quiet but she does bang the cage bars when strangers approach, not us though. he is new to your home, give him time and he will come around. mine only bit me once in the 4 months i have had her and its true, the little suckers bite hard. my sunny only squawks to say hello when we wake up or come home. i agree with the people that suggested removing the sand paper perch, those are terrible for birds. i might be wrong but i say give him a few days if need be and then attempt handling him. i was told to wait 2 weeks but since my sunny is preety easy going, i was petting and holding her by the 3rd day.
First off, he is just a baby, very scared and confused. Make sure his food is where he is comfortable getting to it. His cage is his safety zone, so he may not like intruders, such as humans with hands. LOL If your cage has a door that opens outward, put either a small concrete perch, or make a U out of a rope perch and put it on the door. That way, when you open the door, your bird is no longer %26quot;in%26quot; his cage, he is on the %26quot;outside%26quot; and should step up more readily.
If you bought a hand fed/hand raised baby then you won't ahve to tame him. Just build trust. But if he isn't then start now by feeding him treats, and reading to him. Don't stress him out, learn his body language to learn when he is getting stressed and irritated. He is probably biting because he doesn't know you. He is nervous, insecure, and just a little stressed. But when he does bite grab his beak between your thumb and pointer finger knuckle and say No firmly. Loud isn't the key, it's the tone. If you yell, they yell and it will become a game will hurt your ears since as you know Sun conures are LOUD. When he is being good talk sweetly to him and if he lets you: pet him. but biting needs to be disciplined right away to prevent an older bird with an agression problem. You want to start building trust right away, which is all taming is. Getting a bird to become comfortable and trusting around humans. So start building trust today, but don't do too much handling, don't ask him too many commands either. Start traching step up and step down in a couple days.
I have an almost 3yr old conure. I got it when it was 2mths old. My recommendation is to leave the bird without paying any attention to what its doing in the cage and let it adjust to the cage. Meanwhile keep it in a place where it can see atleast one member of the family walking around here and there. And whenever someone is in the mood to talk to the bird wherever they are from (meaning even another room) but not coming too close to the cage. In a few days time you'll see a big difference. As regards to the food, if you have high perches bring them down. And don't bother taking food to the bird. Its in nature to come to food when they are hungry. So don't be afraid and watch and see what happens. Biting will happen from time to time when the bird is unable to express that it doesn't want something. If you think its about to bite move back and come back later again after a few minutes. Donot encourage biting. Once the bird figures that you won't pick it up if it wants to bite, it'll mellow down. Meantime try other things to see what the bird likes. We just have to learn thru trial and error what works best like new moms do. books also give good tips.

Advice please!!!?

I Found a baby bird in my backyard, it has some feathers but cant fly yet, i have 2 cats that live outside and i was scared that it was going to get eatin or somthing, and the mom wasent coming back or anything so i took it inside and decided to try and hand raise it, but the onley problem is i dont know HOW! so could someone please give me advice?
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Get the cats inside, and put the bird back where you found it!
Do NOT give it milk. Milk is not a natural food for birds. Do NOT attempt to feed it with a syringe if you have no experience feeding baby birds. If you do it wrong, you can injure or kill the baby. And do NOT attempt to give it liquids with a dropper or syringe - a baby bird can aspirate and die.
If the baby has most of its feathers, it is a fledgling. Baby birds fledge (leave the nest) several days before they can fly. They need time to hop around on the ground, climb low branches, and exercise their wings until they have strengthened them enough for flight. The parent birds continue to feed and care for the fledglings until they are self-sufficient.
If this is a fledgling, put it back where you found it. If the parents can hear it, they will return to it and continue to care for it.
If it is not feathered that much, and you think it was still a nestling, try to place the bird back in the nest. Do not worry that you have touched it. Birds do not have an acute sense of smell. The parent birds will not detect your scent on the baby, and will not reject it. Wildlife biologists and bird banders handle baby birds all the time, with thier bare hands, and the parents never reject the babies.
If you can not find the nest and place the bird back, contact a licensed wildlife rehabilitator. You can find one here:
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/contact.
Please, under no circumstances, attempt to care for the baby bird yourself. There is so much more to rehabilitation than keeping the animal alive until you think it is ready to be released. You have to know not only what to feed the bird, but how (please do NOT attempt to give the bird any liquid by dropper - baby birds can aspirate and die), how much and how often. You also have to know how to assess the birds general health and condition.
A baby bird kept in captivity must be taught to recognize and find the type of food it will eat in the wild. If it is being hand-fed, it may not associate the bugs and berries and seeds in nature as being food. It must also have the opportunity to exercise its wings a lot, so it will be able to fly on or shortly after release. When I volunteered at the Avian Rehabilitation Center, we kept the rehabilitating fledglings in a large walk-in cage with lots of shelves and branches leading from one shelf to the other, and down to the ground. We would place different types of food in the cage for them, as they were being weaned from the hand-feeding formula. We offered seed, meal worms and chopped up fruit. No fledgling was released until it was eating on its own, had sufficient weight gain, had all of its flight feathers in good condition, had no sign of diarreah or nasal discharge, had clear eyes, and could fly at least a few feet in a straight line.
These are the reasons to get the bird to a licensed rehabilitator - they have the training and the resources necessary to do all this, in addition to having the permits to do it all legally.
All native migratory birds in the US are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, and you must have the proper permits to have them, even for a short time, even for good reasons like saving them. Many other countries also have similar laws regarding their native species
use one of those eye dropper things and feed milk to it.
well buy him a cage, and put it in a safe room where the cats cant go in so they wont eat him. and since hes still a baby feed him and give him water with your fingers.
I would call the local wildlife center in your city and let then see it and maybe they can tell you what kinda bird it is and what to feed it. Good luck.
You grabbed the wrong animal.
Bring your cats inside and put the bird outside where it belongs. The mother is probably looking for it.

About Pigeons?

How do i get my (flight pigeons) trained to fly and come back to the pigeon coop?
Answers:
Are they homers or just flying pigeons?
Make sure the pigeons are settled in their loft first. Give them a few weeks after moving in. It's best to feed your pigeons once or twice a day, only as much as they can consume in 10/20 minutes (depending on how often you feed them). To get your pigeon to come home, make sure it has a good home to come to. Having a mate makes pigeons want to come home. Treat your pigeons kindly and gently, keep their loft clean and well kept and make sure they have good food. Before you feed your pigeon each day, let it out of the cage to examine it's soroundings. Give it about an hour or two, then put the food in the cage so it will go back in to eat, then lock the cage up. Do this every day. If you have a trap door on the loft, you will need to teach the pigeons to use it, I do this by repeatedly putting the pigeons through the trap until they do it on their own. Sometimes you can put food right on the inside of the door to lure them through. After a few days, when you let the pigeon out it should fly around above the loft and get to know it's soroundings. If it does not do this within about a week, try getting it to fly by picking it up and throwing it into the air.
If they are flights for high flying or endurance flying you might need a dropper pigeon such as nonflying pigeons or some fantails to let out when you are ready to bring the pigeons back down to the loft. The fliers see the dropper pigeon walking around below and fly down to be with them.
First once bred and the young have been weened for 2 weeks. do not feed them that day and push them out onto the board or roof. they are not fully developed so they will not fly away. leave them out for about 15-20 minutes then call them back in with food. repeat this every day longer and longer till they go fly and come in for food. about another month to 2 months. they will fly and always come back. if they are older and fully developed you can use an avairy to settle them. once they fly for about an hour andc a half then crate them up and take them amile away from the house. do this 3 times so they can get used to the training basket. once that is complete start about 5 miles out 3 times and then 10 miles 3 times then 20 miles 3 times and double it as you go

About our 2 yr old cockatiel?

Charlie was a sweetheart until a few months ago, when he started to attack us! We have no idea what happened, maybe he was frightened. We have had work being done on the house, so the noises have really stressed him. We restricted him to his cage since he started chewing on the window screens, and my husband won't let me clip his wings (he says it's cruel and no argument will change his mind). Now he sets in the cage miserable, and plucking feathers and is nearly naked. Any suggestions will be appreciated; I really love him even though he has bonded with my husband instead! Will his feathers grow back? He has pulled them out under his wings, breast, stomach, and legs; it's so pitiful as he is a beautiful bird!
Answers:
A few months ago was cockatiel mating season. At that time many cockatiels %26quot;Go Hormonal%26quot; and become very terriroial and aggressive ! They can and sometimes do attack !
The hormones are raging for 4 to 8 weeks, after which the bird reverts back to its old habits.
So basically the bird went through a temporary breakdown, and now finds himself in solitary confinement. His tiny brain does not understand why. He is lonely and unhappy , so he has begun plucking his feathers just like stressed people will sometimes bite their nails even to the quick !
Ther bird is feeling confused and betrayed. you must regain his trust. This can be done , but it will take a lot of time and patience. Expect to be nipped a few times, but do not punish the bird other than a stern %26quot;NO BITE!%26quot; and leaving him alone
Begin by spending lots of time with him, even if he is in his cage. Talk to him in a soothing voice, praise him , sing to him, read to him, anything to interact with the bird. This needs to be for at least 1 to 2 hours per day.
When he shows signs of being calmer , try giving him special treats through the bars- sunflower seeds, room temperature cooked pasta, crackers, fruits and veggies, or whatever he likes best. Make sure that he only gets the treats if he takes them from your hand nicely. Don't drop treats into the cage or the food bowl. He needs to know that treats come from you and your husband alone! he must socialize to get his treats!
After he has shown that he will readily take treats from you, try opening the cage and offerring the treat at the door of the cage. Let the bird come to you. He will soon learn to come to you for his treat.
Next, after giving him a treat try gently stroking his chest and tummy. If he withdraws or gets aggressive, just close up the cage and leave him alone for a few hours. Eventually he will become more tolerant to your touch.
As the last step, when he is comfortable with your touch, then try offerring your finger for him to step up on, while you say %26quot;Step Up!%26quot; He should get the idea fairly quickly. At this stage he has demonstrated that he trusts you fully.
Next year, watch for the mating season ( usually in the spring). If the bird shows signs of aggression, then put him in his cage, but be sure to spend time with him , talking to him each day, even if he is acting aggressive. You should eventually become adept at recognising the bad times and dealing with them.
I hope you two are not arguing in front of the bird! If you are, stop, and stay calm around the bird and give him some quiet dark privacy at night.
I've heard when they pluck their feathers, it's either because of loneliness or stress. And now being in his cage will only make it worse. If he was used to being out of the cage %26 now doesn't have that freedom, he's going to show it. I know some pet stores have %26quot;bitter spray%26quot; that you can get, spray it somewhere that the bird is chewing %26 it'll taste horrible. It's hard to say if they'll grow back. Hopefully they will. I birdnapped a cockatiel that was being abused by his owner. he plucked out all his little feathers but never grew back. because so stressed that pulling them out was his relief. Maybe you can get him to come out by moving real slowly when trying to get his out of the cage. It might be real lonely. You could also get your bird new %26 different toys to keep him entertained.
Clipping wing feathers is NOT cruel. Clipping wing feathers keeps a bird tame and reduces the danger of them flying out an open door or window or hitting a ceiling fan. You should definately clip your cockatiels wing feathers.
Your bird is likely either stressed from all the construction or simply bored to death. Keeping him in his cage without a variety of toys, no companion and without a lot of human interaction will drive the bird to do things to keep itself entertained - including ripping out it's own feathers.
Feathers will (usually) grow back, but you need to stop the cycle of him yanking them out now before it's too late.
Well with all the noise, then bieng trapped in his cage, adn tehn if you all fought loudly, it's a wodner he hasn't started making a wound in his chest. You rarely hear of a cockatiel plucking this badly...it's obviously a rough time for him right now. When he chews on windo screens tell him now, and move him bakc to a play stand. To help soothe his skin and the feathers that remain in shape, a wet bird is less likely to pluck. Get aloe gel, pure 100% aloe gel and mix it well in warm water and put it in a never used spray bottle. (You can find one at the dollar store) And mist him whether he likes it or not in the morning, and then after an hour do ti agian if possible. Keep him wet till the afternoon in which case you ahve to allow him to dry for the night. Provide a good diet, adn add mroe toys to his cage. Then ge thubby to start spending time with him everyday. Within a week ro so if your baby doens't improve it's time for the vet to get bloodwork donw. if you aren't willing to take care of your bird and just keep him confined then please give him to a rescue who will try and do everything they can to stop his plucking and find him a loving home who won't care if he tries to destroy their home. That's the thing about parrots: Noisy, messy, and destructive. I feel bad for your tiel because you are punishing him for being himself: a young bird who is being a young bird. You are goiong to have to start letting him out of his cage if you want to try and reverse what you have done. His feathers may grow back.but it depends. Some birds do ti so extensively that they don't. He will tolerate you, tiels aren't one person birds. he will do find if you take him out, bathe him and then offer him things to chew on. Give him head scratches(They see it as you are preening their head feathers, a bonding thing birds do for each other in a flock) Please do the right thing: start taking care of him or give him to a rescue.
Mabye you havn't been spending enough time with you bird. not that long ago i went away fr ten days and when i got back my cockatiel was nipping me but i just spent some time with her and played with her and she stopped.
the feathers can grow back but you need to figure out what is stressing him out so much. if paints or varnish are being used you need to get him out of the house for atleast 24 hours after it has dried. check out birdchannel.com for more info and advice
Charlie's feathers should grow back in time. In the meantime, as John P said, he is very stressed. This state of mind is very condusive to major feather plucking. The trick is for neither you nor your husband to let Charlie sense that you're afraid he's going to bite or be mean again. The best approach is a quiet, calm, slow one. Speaking very softly, almost whispering, will make Charlie calm down so he can hear what you're saying to him. We've never seen this approach fail, not even when a bird is in full voice and panicing. Remember also to watch out for %26quot;night frights%26quot; which cockatiels are very susceptible to as he's so stressed. They're like the nightmares a 2-3 year old has when they need mom or dad to sit with them, talk to them, and reassure them that nothing is going to get to them.
See if you can locate a %26quot;preening toy%26quot; for him. This is basically a wooden ball with material spouting out of it. The idea is that a nervous bird can work the materials through his beak, just like he would were he preening a flock mate. The toy is usually very inexpensive but does wonders to calm down an insecure and depressed bird.
Contrary to what your husband thinks, clipping Charlie's wings will do all of you a world of good. It will show Charlie that he can depend on you to meet all his needs. It will keep him from flying into windows or walls where he can be seriously injured, if not killed. It will also keep Charlie from heading over the horizon if he gets a chance to escape. My husband %26 I had felt the same way until our sight-challenged quaker parrot proved that it was MORE loving to protect him from himself since he didn't know what he was flying into. The flight feathers WILL grow back, they'll just need another trimming when that happens. Flight feather cutting, when done properly, hurts as much as a hair cut hurts a person. In other words, it doesn't hurt at all! I also suggest you invest in a flight suit or two. It's going to take time for Charlie to get used to this, but he'll love the idea of being able to go outside with you, go for rides, and maybe even into stores or other places where people are. This will help socialize him which will make him, and you, much happier.
Try keeping your TV or radio on in the room where Charlie lives when you're not around. The sound of human voices will help soothe him as he'll think he's not alone. Since cockatiels are VERY social birds he needs all the feeling of being with part of a flock desperately at this point. Make sure that you let him out to socialize with you 1 - 2 hours a day. Give him treats and juice as encouragements and reinforcements when he does things that earn him a %26quot;good bird%26quot;. Both of you need to practice %26quot;step ups%26quot; with him daily so he understands that you and your husband are the flock leaders.
Meantime, since Charlie is in molt, undoubtedly has itchy pin feathers, and the heat isn't helping matters make sure you give him some meat each day. Don't give him a lot as meat can make cockatiels aggressive. That being said, the extra protein will help the molting process pass quicker and give him stronger and more beautiful feathers. When I say give him meat, I'm talking only about 2-3 cockatiel bites worth. That shouldn't be enough to make trouble between the three of you.
Good luck to the three of you. Have patience, work with Charlie, and all should turn out well yet.

About my chicken.?

my chicken is sick and i give her medicine. her comb is orangy red. and she has diarrhea, sleepiness, and loss of apatite. is she sick is she okay? or does she has a disease? can you tell me what kind of sickness is it and if it is contagious to humans and can you tell me if she is going to be fine. or if she has a disease can you tell me the name. or maybe she is just sick and will get better. can someone help?
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What kind of medicine did you give her? Diarrhea, sleepiness, and loss of appetite are vague symptoms that could mean anything, maybe some sort of infection. As for comb color, usually when a chicken is sick the comb will turn pale or blue...never heard of orangey colored. Whatever she has is probably not contagious to you, but always wash hands, just in case. You should probably call a poultry vet for advice, if you havent already, and in the meantime, bring her inside in a quiet place, not too hot or cold, and get her to drink by dipping her beak in clean water and give her some food.
depending on the age of the chicken, it could range from a high variety of illnesses.
wear gloves when you handle her.an its best to take her to the vet. Run now fast!!

About my birds?

I have to birds and I'm not sure of their genders. Does anyone know how I can tell?
Answers:
That will depend on what type of bird you have. Can you tell us what species or show photos?
Some species are very easy to tell the genders apart. Some need to be DNA tested to be sure.
look for a dick
Birds have to be of a certain age before their genders can be detected. A pet store that deals with birds could check them for you.
i have got a cockatiel who is really aggressive! need i say more... ok (male)
Different birds have different characteristics. Some birds are very easy to tell a[part. Others have absolutely no distinguishing traits.
With out knowing what kind of bird it is, it is impossible to give you an answer.
i have a lorikeet and i thought it was a boy as that was what they told me at the pet shop... 1 year later he/she layed an egg. The only REAL way to know is to take IT to the vet and they will DNA test them. It may cost a little but if you really need to know then that is the only definate way to know!
what kind of birds? for a budgie its a blue crest and a brown crest for female, crest is the bit above beak
Some are dimophic which means they show appearances of their sex and some are not. Depending on what species of birds you have, this may be true. On the other hand some may need a pelvic check or there are other ways to tell, and others need to be DNA sexed.
Hope this helped you?
Without knowing what species of bird you have then it is impossible to tell you pop along to your library and borrow a book on Birds of the World you may find them in there,they will also have other books that may help,have you a friend that knows about birds or where did you purchase them from?
What type of birds are they? If they are budgies and over a certain age the cere on their beak will be blue for a boy and brown for a girl
well it would help greatly if you would provide details of the species of your birds other than that all I can say is carry out dna sexing on feathers plucked from the breast of your birds contact avian biotech google them they will send you kits to carry out the tests return the kits to them and they send you the results within a week.
they can be dna tested all you have to do is pull one or two breast feathers and send them to the lab visit your local pet shop for details i did with my two macaws and found them both to be males,,good luck,,,,
Some birds can be sexed with visable differences but few are that easy like the ecclectus parrots the males are green and the females are red. I am not sure of the type of birds you have but their are other ways to get the sex of your bird documented, you can have a test done at the vet, or you can try Avian Biotech (google them for the info), you will be sent a it to pull a blood feather from the tail feather of the bird and a tube with solution in it to store it in in order for it to stay fresh during shipment back to the lab. It is fairly inexpensive and that way you will get all the info you need. For a few extra bucks you can get health profile too. Good Luck!

About my african grey congo?

I have had him/her for about 3 weeks now, he really prefers men and i am female, will he ever like me as much as a mail?
he will bite me harder than my b.f. i think he just always had male owners i know the guy i got him from and i think he had one previous owner that i am not sure about he is 3 years old I try to spend as much time with him as he will let me, he is not aggresive just scared he will even pluck his feathers if i hold him for more than a few minutes, i try to keep him occupied to keep him from plucking sometimes this works sometimes it don't
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a 2nd hand grey wud of chosen his flock in his past owner...if he was a male then thats why at the moment he prefers men ..they are very 1 person birds...he will be suffing from stress and have no trust in you at mo due to the change of owner ...be patient with him ..and let him come to u ..offer treats ..but dont handle him yet ..the plucking could be a stress thing also ...if he as only plucked since being with you
make sure he has a good diet ..plenty of fresh fruit and veg.and a pellet diet
once he has settled in he shud be fine ..but it will take time ..so loadsa TLC and patience ..good luck
have you tried having him associate good things with you? like whenever you pick him up giving him a treat or something he likes to play with, birds are very intelligent creatures im sure he will catch on quickly and i would suggest not holding him for long periods of time until he starts to warm up to you. hope that helps!
You've only had him three weeks. He will probably warm up to you soon. My friend got 2 Macaws because the previous owner died and it took a while for them to stop biting him but now they love him.
I don't if this is true or not, it is with my Grey, but they seem to be a 1 person owner. Mine prefers me over everyone else in the house, and she will actually try to attack people when they walk by her cage. It probably does have to do with the fact that the previous owner was a male also. Just keep working with him, when he starts stressing, put him back. Give him treats so he'll associate something %26quot;good%26quot; with you.
Yes, you need to have him associate you with good things. Ignore the bites and they should stop. Don't make a sound or flinch when he bites (it's hard, I know) and he'll find other ways to show you that he's unhappy. He is probably very stressed and scared, so when you take him out, wrap him in a nice warm towel or blanket (I put them in the dryer for a few minutes until they're toasty) and just watch TV or something. This way, he learns not to be afraid of you, and the towel keeps him from plucking. If he doesn't stop plucking soon, you'll need to get him a sweater-type thing to wear when he's outside with you.
If the bird prefers men, it's probably a girl.
yes smarts parrrots are usally bond more with a specific gender, and when if he is pluckin out his feathers it is because he is stressed out and is scared...
Well, known from experience, African Grey's are specifically intelligent. They are very hard-headed and set into their ways, though. If this bird really dislikes you, then, there's a good chance that he is never going to like you. Feather plucking is a very serious mental illness in birds. They do it when they are stressed and upset.
A very possible reason why that bird doesn't like you, could be that he was, in the past, abused by a female and whenever the bird is around one, it freaks. They have very good memories.
good luck.
you must have a female african grey they like males more because your a female she sees you as a rival. females pefer males to other females i mean they are like us just spend a lot more time with her and love her more speek nice to her and play with her even though she bites you just be paitent and she will come around. and i also agree with the answer above me.
Birds are like small children in many ways. They like the person who does nice things for them. Instead of holding him, let him ride on your shoulder. Sit on the sofa and watch TV and let him crawl all over you, getting used to you. When you feed your bird each day, always take one piece of whatever you feed and give it to him with your hand. Birds are really strange sometimes and you can waste a lot of time and energy trying to figure out what they are thinking.

About how much do parrotlets cost at Petco?


Answers:
Do a search locally and try for a hand raised chick.
I have parrolets and they are extremely hard to socialize and tame.
It took me a year to get one to perch on my finger. Then the other 2 did it immediately afterwards.
They are still not TAME even after almost 3 years. I work with them everyday.
Beautiful and fun to have but difficult for interaction---more like a lovebird (no hand raised).
A conure is a better choice if you want a bird to %26quot;play%26quot; and learn tricks. Of course they are loud.
for those little suckers - a fortune
there arent any parrotlets at petco. besides. petco abuses their animals.
i don't think you can buy them at petco, but there normally like 200$ i think
They're expensive and they're nearly always paired and never tame.
Petco has an amazing reputation where I live (Tallahassee) with one of our local avian vets because they're one of the few shops that actually bring their new birds in for quarantine and vaccination against disease, take injured birds in for treatment, and are genuinely interested in the health of their birds.
That being said - they could care less about how tame their birds are - and most of the employees I've dealt with are veritable idiots when it comes to avian knowledge.
I don't know about parrotlets, but I got my budgie there for around 75$

Abnormal baby parakeet? Help please!?

While the baby parakeet was still small, I checked up on it and it looked perfectly fine...Except for the fact that it kept its whole body flat on the ground of the nesting box. I thought that this whole thing was just temporary since all the other baby birds could never actually stand up yet.
The baby parakeet now has most of its feathers grown in but hasn't grown out of the laying flat phase. I feel REALLY sorry for it because it's basically doing the splits and its legs don't bend in a way for it to stand up. It has a hard time moving from one place to another because it can't stand. Is my bird %26quot;special%26quot; or will it grow out of this? By the way, both of its legs are capable of moving but don't bend.
Answers:
Sounds like your baby bird has %26quot;splayed%26quot; legs.If the birds legs are placed in splints earlier enough, the problem can be cured, but it must be done within a certain time limit. Take your bird to a vet as soon as possible.
it happend when he was in the egg . sorry but he will not grow out of it. i have a keet that has a bent over neck. kinda like when he was in the egg and their necks are bent in toward their bodys.well his egg might have been kicked around and he was born like that. so we both have special
keets but ricky is the sweetest ever!
noone can say with certiantiy if it will grow out of it or not but if he has splayed legs a vet can help with treatments but only when he is young and growing.
This does not happen in the egg, it's from not having proper bedding in the nest box. This baby needs help NOW not later. You need to find an avian vet that knows how to help this baby so splints may be placed on these legs,or this baby may never be able to perch correctly for the rest of it's life.
This is why people really need to think about just putting on a box on a pair of birds. It's just not as simple as people think. As you can see, things happen and money needs to be spent or you have problems that lie ahead. Birds are placed at risk now, and you may have no excuse for your error.
Now you have to hand feed this baby, and i bet you are not prepared for that either!! Which is why, people need to think real hard before adding a nest box to their birds.
Gee and i bet you thought it wouldn't happen to you huh?
Please get this baby to a vet that knows what they are doing!!
Although humor4fms's answer is a bit brash she is right. You do need to take the baby to an avian vet or the other less costly choice is to eliminate it. I have had to do both, neither one is fun. I have been a commecial breeder in the past but then my %26quot;hobby%26quot; became a chore. Now I breed for fun and the pleasure of being around the birds. Take the baby to a vet or kill it. Sorry those are your choices,
I think it may have been abused as an egg by someone named Daniel.

Abandoned bird eggs?

When I was outside, below my oak tree, I found bird eggs. I looked up and saw that the nest broke and they fell to the ground. We know it happened not to long ago because the eggs weren't on the ground this last weekend. We aren't touching them and are waiting for the mother to come back. How long should it be before I should worry and will I be able to help if the mother won't come back. Please, Help!
Answers:
The eggs are most likely already dead. If they got too cold they would have died. Them falling to the ground could have killed them as well. The mother bird cannot and will not incubate them once they have fallen from the nest. She has probably moved on once she realized the nest had been knocked over.
if it was last weekend and the eggs are out of the nest that long they probably arent good anymore the mother knows this and wont come back birds are generally good parents so if the mother hasnt come back by now she has probably moved on sorry :-(
Well put the nest back up in the tree along with the eggs watch to see if the mother returns,if not call WildLife Rescue at 1-443-507-0950 hope this saves the egggs!!
Unfortunately the eggs are probably already dead. They need to be kept warm. And if eggs fall out of a nest the parents just don't bother with them because it could take as few as 2 minutes for the hatch-ling within to die from cold.
The nest is designed to keep them somewhat warm, out of the cold grass, and the parents spend lots of time sitting on them to keep them warm. Without that warmth, it's disaster for the chicks.
Sorry for you. Me? I've successfully rescued a baby sparrow from death by keeping it inside away from the neighborhood cat. Every afternoon we placed him in the hanging flower basket and watched the parents fly back and forth taking care of him until he was able to fly away. He did, and we cried because - dumb as it sounds - we fell in love with him. Named him Downey.
But if you touch a wild bird, - NO - the parents WON'T reject him.
Probably the eggs are dead.A mother would not abanden her baby no matter what.

2 questions about cockatiels?

ok i just bought a cockatiel thursday. i cant tell if he is a pearl cockatiel or a regular grey! i payed $115 for him and they said he was about 2-3 months old. his face looks like a male grey cockatiel but his back is lighter than all the others i have seen.

2nd Q:
what is a good way to get him to trust me? i know i just got him, but i cant wait until he can get on my hand. he wont take treats yet, so what are some other good ways to get him to trust me??
Answers:
http://www.cockatielcottage.net/main.htm...
This is my favorite site for cockatiel info. :)
Pearls have white %26quot;pearls%26quot; all over and the males will lose the pearls and look like normal greys when they do their first molt (around 6 months old). Here are some pixs:
http://www.cockatielsplusparrots.com/mut...
Firstly,whether he is pearl or normal...males faces are yellow and females faces are not yellow. Actually female pearls are the ones who have pearl markings so thats a female.Male pearls look exactly the same as male normals so dont get the point of buying pearl males.
You have to handle him every day. They love their head rubbed. Eventually he'll understand he's safe, and then you can get him on your finger. Takes about a month. Be patient. Don't give up.
Put your hand in the cage with a lightweight glove on, he will peck it at first because he will be scared of it , after a few days he will stop this attacking because he will feel safer, slowly remove the glove and then start to introduce your hand just inside the cage, over a few days put your hand closer, he may still peck you at first but do not yank your hand out, it does not hurt that much, he will eventually jump onto your hand, keep him in the cage while doing this at first.
They make terrific pet`s and will learn to talk if you train him to, repeat and repeat what you want him to say, you will absolutely love him.
Good Luck,
Chris